there's rubio and there's others, and chris christie might be one although some people might disagree with that. >> and jeb bush, in fact, there's a very deep bench, i think, on the republican side. there's a lot of people who will be possible, and who will want to come forward. it might be-- it's possible 2016 will turn into quite a fracus on the republican side and a stately walking towards the coronation on the democratic side. i mean, i say that within the context of knowing that four years of history can turn any number of things on their head. >> what about a third party candidate possibility? earlier this year, gallup said only 30% of people said they were democrats, 30% republican, the rest were independent. is the country ripe for a third party candidate? >> the country is ripe and i've worked on those efforts myself and seen the response that the electorate offers in polls and real world activities to that. there's a problem. the electoral system in this country makes it extremely difficult for third party candidates to emerge. at the same time, and peggy's written compellin